this is the frist breeding between the two. pups are red and rust. fawn and rust. males, and females. they are in home raised under foot. will be huge when full grown. both parents on sight. many champions between the two along with lots of working tittles, sch3,ipo3. for those of you breeding for white and want to add some size and new blood to your lines, you will love these pups. pups will also make great family pets. sire: euro, amer. bred.31" 115lbs. dam:29" 105lbs. pet price 600.00 limit reg. 800.00 full reg. taken deposits now. a 100.00 deposit will hold your puppy untill pick up. many ref's open vet records. for more information on these pups call 419 4627635. if anyone has tryed to contack me, verizon e-mail has been down since march 26th. you will need to call i have 2 red and rust females available.